User talk:Sigilbaram/Archive/February 2015

Competetive Scene + Teams
Hey, I didn't see that there was a template for teams so I decided to go with a standard infobox which I think looks ok. Something that I'm planning on doing once I've finished adding all the teams to the wiki is making a post on the smite reddit about getting people more involved on the pages here for the competitive scene. -- UnseenAngler (talk)

If you could add Team Captain as well as keep the Manager (some teams have both) that would be great. I'll try not to upload duplicate images in the future. --UnseenAngler (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Looks great. I'm not working on any of the pages currently, so you can go ahead and edit the rest of the teams as well, if you have the time. If not, I can change it. --UnseenAngler (talk) 17:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Moving icons
Hey, you sure you wanna move the icons there? These are the actual in-game names of the files. They only started with the A01 etc. since I think Cupid.
 * Yeah, the original gods for sure have been like that. After checking, all the gods after the Beta went public (i.e. starting with Baka) have the A# and Passive tags. But the characters before all have the move names in the icon names instead.
 * Ah yes, I've been wondering who would take over, Tesla told me she was going to leave already. Thanks for the heads up. :) Also totally forgot my signature, derp. -- RedArremer (talk) 21:13, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

My block
Unfortunately you did not properly unblock me after you blocked me prematurely. At this time I am unable to do any thing of any kind on my account. As I am sure you are aware of by now, the block you imposed on me truly was premature and unwarranted. Given the very nature of the edit I made.

Obviously, as I am unable to contact you through my own account, I had to resort to contacting you anonymously. Anyhow, my account name is Kharay1977 -- as I am sure you remember as well. ;) Much appreciation for unblocking me. Assuming you will, of course. ;) -83.128.72.185 23:48, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh dear... It said I unblocked you and you are listed as being unblocked in Special:Log/block. When I try to unblock you again it says you aren't blocked... We'll bringing it up with the tech team and hopefully there is something that can be done soon. Although it might potential fix itself as well (We've had some bugs with server side caching). -- Sigil Baram (talk) 00:03, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh and sorry again for blocking you in the first place. >.< -- Sigil Baram (talk) 00:05, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Front Page/Guides
Hi, I've talked about this with Tesla as well a while ago, but now that the Guides section is starting to be really big, I wanted to bring it up again. Is there a reason the Guides section is the first section on the wiki's frontpage? I've always found it really confusing that first there's the guides and THEN there's the character overviews. I've just deleted an edit someone who posted an image of Fenrir's skills on guide page instead of his god page, thinking the guide page was the actual god page. The more characters are going to be added, the more confusing this will get. I really would advise doing something, either putting the Gods section first, or, if the Guides section HAS to be staying on top, mkaing it smaller so the Gods section is visible at first glance. This has bothered me ever since the wiki has gotten its Guides section, and no other Curse wiki on Gamepedia I've checked (including the MOBA ones, in particular Dota 2) has a Guides section in front of the characters. -- RedArremer (talk) 10:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I couldn't agree more, the guides section has no business being the first thing people see. In fact, I personally see no reason whatsoever why a guides section would even have to be that big in the first place. A guide is a guide, it contains specific information on whatever said guide is on. If people need to find a guide for something, they will know where to look. It would serve the wiki in more ways than one if the gods themselves were on top and the guides were, for example, an item in the left hand menu or something along those lines. -- Kharay1977 (talk) 14:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why the guides section was put at the top and agree that the wiki index should probably be the first thing on the page. I'll move those around. I was also considering removing the separate guide index pages and just listing the guides right on the gods page as a section, if you guys think that would be better. Currently the indices are fairly short making those pages kind of empty besides the redundant infobox.


 * On a similar note, we could also add some pages to the navigation sidebar if there are any pages that you guys think would be helpful to have there, such as Competitive scene if that whole concept takes off more, or Community Guides, although that one could probably use a bit of cleaning up as far as format.


 * Glancing back at that conversation on Tesla's talk page I also noticed some other issues you brought up such as some things being too wide on lower resolutions. I try to fix things like this where I see them, but I might not happen across a page or not be viewing it at a resolution that causes the issue, so feel free to point out any pages or templates with those kinds of problems. Sigil Baram (talk) 19:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've noticed that you've changed the front page to fit into lower resolutions, but something else has happened. Most notably that the index now is smushed together. ;) I'd suggest moving the Resource Pages and Items into the same line as the Combat section. Everything else looks perfect, though, so thanks for that! Here's a screenshot: http://smite.gamepedia.com/File:Wiki1024.png - RedArremer (talk) 23:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Well that shouldn't be happening... They should automatically go to the next line when the space is too small. What browser are you using? I'll try and replicate in various browsers and see if I can figure out what it wrong. -- Sigil Baram (talk) 17:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * EDIT: That should fix the issue. It might be better to have them be a set width or something, but for now they don't get squished. -- Sigil Baram (talk) 17:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Awesome, it's perfect now! Thanks! :) Also, there's been some suggestions over at the frontpage's talk page - I even made some shiny pictures for it! http://smite.gamepedia.com/Talk:Smite_Wiki#Front_Page_Clean-Up -- RedArremer (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about, busy long weekend. I'll hop over there. -- Sigil Baram (talk) 18:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Item/God Patch History
I never got a clear answer on this before, what do you guys think about having a patch history section for each item/god? User:Zojima1668/Sandbox/Item|Example --Zojima (talk) 14:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I was actually thinking about something along these lines but more general, take a look at this example from another wiki of another MOBA-type game -- Star Battle Patch Notes. -- Kharay1977 (talk) 15:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see a problem with adding patch history to each item/god page. Those pages have to be edited anyway so adding a note for historical sake doesn't seem too bad. The bit of extra work is the only issue I would see, and you and RedArremer seem to do most of the patch notes and updates, so if you guys like the idea I'd say go for it.


 * Are you thinking of something like Patch notes and the pages it links to Kharay? -- Sigil Baram (talk) 16:28, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I would consolidate them onto one page, as in my example for Star Battle. And simply using a TOC instead of linking to separate pages. The reason for this is that having everything in one article would make it far easier to look up a specific change. Yes, it would become quite a lengthy article but as far as bandwidth is concerned, it's all flat text so the article would load quickly enough. I feel that any PvP title, particularly something like a MOBA greatly benefits from having a way to easily look up specific changes. To help out fellow players and so forth and so on. We can't be expected to have a clear memory of every single change in every single patch after all. Anyhow, it's just my thoughts. Above all else, I would like to observe consensus in this and if I am alone in this idea then I am alone. ;) -- Kharay1977 (talk) 16:39, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah I see what you mean. That sounds helpful. Maybe we could change the current Patch notes page to include summaries or something, since currently the patch notes pages have a lot of details and formatting and are rather long to transclude into a single article. I'm currently adding them to Category:Patch notes too since it is a rather large chunk of uncategorized pages. -- Sigil Baram (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

God Skills
What do you guys think of having god's abilities formatted like User:Zojima1668/Sandbox/Template:AbilityBox|this or something similar? just asking for opinions or suggestions. Inspiration from SMITE's in-game tooltips. --Zojima (talk) 03:59, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it looks good, but it is mainly up to you guys in the community. I'm here for tech support for the most part. It would work really well as a tooltip or whatnot, but maybe not so well inline. Personally I like templates that look similar to the UI of games. -- Sigil Baram (talk) 19:06, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Can't Upload Anything
Hi, I've tried uploading the new icons that had been released with this patch, but I can't upload anything. You can see in the recent changes my attempt to upload stuff, but it wouldn't let me at all. If I upload something that has yet to get a page, after "uploading" it, it doesn't actually upload the file, and just creates the page, saying "No file by this name exists, but you can upload it." If I try to "re-upload" it, I get the following message: "The description page for this file has already been created at File:Creeping Curse Rank3 c.png, but no file with this name currently exists. The summary you enter will not appear on the description page. To make your summary appear there, you will need to manually edit it.". If I put something into the summary box, it just puts me back to the "no file by this name exists"-page. So right now, I cannot upload anything. -- RedArremer (talk) 10:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Apparently it might be related to the server migration or something that the head people at gamepedia did yesterday (which was why the wikis were in read-mode), as according to Malvodion, the other wikis are affected as well. -- RedArremer (talk) 11:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Yep. Sorry I didn't get back to you. My watch emails started going to my spam at the same time all this was all happening. --Sigil Baram (talk) 18:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

New God Infobox Template
First of all: Everything alright? You have been a bit quiet. (But I know you have several pages and rl to take care of.) Anyhow: I was working on finishing the new god infobox so that we could have it ready asap. Template_talk:God_infobox/sandbox --Malvodion (talk) 11:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah everything is fine. There was the server crazyness for a few days then I was asked to touch up a wiki that hadn't been touch in a year. I didn't notice your message on Help talk:Guidelines, which I should have gotten an email for because it is on my watch list.... Sorry about that. --Sigil Baram (talk) 15:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh wow that was literally minutes after I posted too... I don't know how I missed that at all. Sorry. >.< --Sigil Baram (talk) 15:15, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't worry :). Well, I just finished the template instructions and was ready to deploy the new infobox but, seems like it's glitching with the old tags (shows & 2 on the top.). Any idea how to fix it?--Malvodion (talk) 20:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Odd. Aren't the tags the way Rolls used to be done? Those should go away when you replace the old infobox. --Sigil Baram (talk) 15:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, t'was my fault. I copied a bit too much from the old template (I only wanted to take the instructions). Already fixed it.--Malvodion (talk) 18:56, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Message from the guy at smite.wikia
Hey, I thought I'd let you know of the message Malvodion and I received, cause you're the head admin: http://smite.gamepedia.com/User_talk:RedArremer#Over_at_Wikia

Finding it funny cause before moving to Curse's gamepedia, this page was using the wikia address. -- RedArremer (talk) 03:44, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Item Ranks template
Hello. Sorry to bother you again but: I wanted to update the items section, but for that I needed the new template you were working on. I tried to finish it myself, but honestly, I had no idea what to do. (The gold cost is displayed in blue/green for rank two/one, and I don't know if you can add branched items.). Could you lend me a hand with it? (And maybe, if it's not much trouble, could you teach me what needs to be done so that I can expand the wiki on my own?)--Malvodion (talk) 02:46, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * How do you want them to look now? The blue/green was from when the ranks had different color costs in game and would be easy to change to a single color. I wasn't sure how best to display the ranks on the page either. Currently they are tables. The template I was working on currently looks like Fatalis/sandbox or Meditation/sandbox depending on if you wrap Item ranks around them. Although it might as be possible to make it look like a table still too. Or if you have some another idea? --Sigil Baram (talk) 08:30, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes I had see those templates, both of them are so much better that a table. But I can't decide which of those is "the best". The one used in fatalis looks great and it's almost a copy of what's in the ingame store, but it might not be very convenient for people (they wouldn't be able to see info without keeping the mouse over it, making it impossible for them to c&p info if they needed to, and it'd probably glitch in some resolutions/mobile view.). Meanwhile the other, while less accurrate, it's more conventient for people.
 * Wait. Is it possible to create a fusion of both, something similar to the ingame store? As in: instead of hovering your mouse over the item, you click it, and it's details are displayed under the branches? That'd allow us to keep "the best of both worlds". If not, then I might have to use the second one.
 * And about the gold costs color: I was almost sure the cost displayed was golden, but I could be wrong. I can't check since Smite is updating.--Malvodion (talk) 12:00, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Currently the mobile version of that template isn't skinned at all because the mobile veiw uses completely separate CSS/JS from the normal view. I recently got an android phone so I can actually check when mobile skins work on phones instead of just going off the mobile view link at the bottom and hoping phones support the same CSS features as full size browsers (which they don't T.T). But I'd probably make it like meditation on them cause hover stuff with touch screens probably doesn't work well. I was working on clicking to show the details below the tree when I was given some new wikis to put together and got distracted. I'll work on that again some more. --Sigil Baram (talk) 17:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help. Sorry but I've got another question: I was working on updating the god infobox template. They replaced the physical/magical power section for a "Damage" section that displays Base power+power per lvl+X% of power and a "Progression" section that displays the basic attack progression of that god, if they got any. Is this ok, or should I did I break anything? (Also I was trying to see how coloring the HP/MP numbers would look like, I probably won't keep that.) Template:God_infobox_new_sandbox Apollo/sandbox --Malvodion (talk) 18:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Odd. Are the power stats gone or something? I went to log in and see what you mean but it is almost a 1GB update so it will take a little while. --Sigil Baram (talk) 19:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Seems like they fused the two stats into one, since gods only have physical or magical. In a previous patch they changed the way magical basic attacks escalate with level (magical god used to gain 0 magical power) to be closer to the physical gods. Along with that change, they changed the way it's displayed on the god's info pages. Before it used to be:
 * Power:
 * Physical: Base Physical power + (Physical power per level)
 * Magical: Base Magical power + (Magical power per level) ((which was always 0 + 0))
 * Now it's displayed as:
 * Basic Attack:
 * Damage: Base Physical/Magical power + (Physical/Magical power per level) + X%(20% for magical, 100% for physical) of Physical/Magical Power.
 * Progression: The basic attack progression. (This used to be displayed on the passive ability description of the gods.)
 * --Malvodion (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

That gb update finished just for a 600mb one to start and the 600mb one is downloading REALLY slowly for some odd reason... Anyway, it sounds like Physical and Magical power are still there, but are no longer part of each gods individual stat blocks and instead each god lists how their basic attacks are calculated. So what you did is probably right. Thought it might be better to make it |power type=physical/magical |power contribution=xx? That would let us do. --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:31, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry. Some stuff came up and I got dragged away. I believe it should be working. I just want to double check it in firefox and IE, though for IE it is kind of a question of "How bad does this look?" rather than expecting it to work... Stopped expecting that from IE when I first started web stuff. --Sigil Baram (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * And it works in Firefox. I was surprised that it worked in IE, but then remembered I updated to IE 10 which actually pays attention to web standards some of the time. It isn't anything special CSS wise since it is mostly JS, so it might work all the way down to IE 8 or even 7, but at some point around in there the whole site breaks down anyway. --Sigil Baram (talk) 18:36, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, I know you have several wikis and other things to take care of. Thanks!
 * Also, could you tell us where did you got the thumbnails for the modes? I asked red if he could get the new one for Assault but he said he couldn't find it.--Malvodion (talk) 19:01, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * ...\GUI\GFx\QueueImageStack --Sigil Baram (talk) 22:39, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

About the ""Borrowed" content at Smite Wikia" thing
Necro (the admin of Smite.Wikia.com who "borrowed" stuff from this wiki) seems to have banished (he left without saying anything and hasn't apeared in a month) without doing anything, so I ended up contacting Wikia's support hoping to get the autorizations I need to remove the content he copied from us (He copied quite a few more thins that the changelogs.) without making much troubles for anyone involved.

However, they can't do much since Necro hasn't been inactive for long enough for the wiki to be in adoption, so they say I need to send a valid DMCA. Should I? or should I just wait until later? or should I simply ignore the situation? I've never had to deal with something like this before.--Malvodion (talk) 23:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I talked with the Gamepedia team and they're going to look into the DMCA legalese stuff and see if it is worth the headache and has solid enough grounds and stuff like that. From the sounds of it Curse will file the DMCA, if they decide that is the way to handle this. If a DMCA won't work there probably isn't much else that can be done. I'll let you know how things go. Thanks for looking into this. --Sigil Baram (talk) 02:41, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

About Smite's voicefiles
I contacted Hi-Rez to ask them about several things, including permisson to upload the voicefiles to the wiki, and they gave it to us.

Should we continue like we had agreed previously?

If we do: Since there is way too many files, I'd need you to tell me how to extract them myself (I've had the UDK editor for a while to check the files, but I don't know how to extract anything.).

I'll work on the response pages whenever I have the time.--Malvodion (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I used a small batch file I wrote to extract things in bulk. I'll email you that and some info. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Sent. You should get an email at whatever email you use with the wiki. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:16, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Got it. Thanks for the help. I test this out while I wait for today's patch reveal.--Malvodion (talk) 20:35, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry for bothering you again but: is it possible to integrate some kind of "multiple upload" tool? because if I have to upload every single file separatedly I'll probably go insane (it's around +110 files per voicepack, and that's without counting the regular voicelines and the future lines that will be added to the preexisting voicepacks.).--Malvodion (talk) 20:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I asked if we could get one again. We used to have mw:Extension:MultiUpload but it isn't compatable with Hydra and is unmaintained. If you use the newfangled editing toolbar it has a place were you can add files (It is a dark blue-ish bar). It is a pretty messy way to upload files since it doesn't let you do anything like renaming them or categorizing them, but it does let you upload multiple files at a time. I'm hoping we can get something with more control again eventually, but for now there is that. --Sigil Baram (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh and when using the current upload tool the ren command might be helpful. Something like this should work:

ren "*.ogg" "* agni.ogg"

to add agni to the end of all of the oggs in the current directory. You can use shift+right click > open command prompt here to open the terminal in whatever folder you are looking at. --Sigil Baram (talk) 22:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Question about Template: Item build
In case you haven't keep up with the game, Hi-Rez changed the way items worked. From several separated items that can be upgraded into stronger versions, they fusioned several items of similar stats into one. I had to archive the old versions and make new pages for the new items. Everything went smoothly except for two items, that don't show up in the Item build: Deathbringer and Devourer's Gloves (You can see both in Anhur's). Do you have any idea what could be causing this? All the other items display correctly, and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with them.

Oh also, Red abandoned the ship two weeks ago, so I've been having to keep the wiki updated by myself (He got a great timing. I had to convert the 120 new icons they added with the last update myself.).--Malvodion (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh wow looks like they did change quite a bit. I'm not sure why those two items aren't showing anything... Special:Browse/Devourer%27s_Gloves isn't even showing categories. It should at least have categories like Special:Browse/Deathbringer does, but it isn't even showing those. I wondering if it is a technical bug of some kind... I'll look into it some and get back to you. --Sigil Baram (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Someone on the team said odd stuff can happen when a page is turned into a redirect and he said deleting and restoring the page tended to fix those, so I guessed that maybe it was because you moved the old versions and tried that fix and it looks like my guess was right. SMW seems to not update properly on certain page actions such as moving or changing to a redirect and that broke those item pages. --Sigil Baram (talk) 22:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * That's weird, I didn't turn Devo's nor Deathbringer's pages into redirects. Anyhow, Thanks for the help. If it ever happens again (Because i'm pretty sure the devs will be toying with the item system again, and I'll have to make more new pages, again..) I'll know what to do to fix it.--Malvodion (talk) 23:56, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Moving the old versions to Devourer's Gloves (Old) and Deathbringer (Old) probably made the same kind of error that changing a page to a redirect makes. --Sigil Baram (talk) 23:59, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Smite Wiki China
Looks like the Chinese smite wiki took pretty much everything from our wiki. They had the same layout until very recently when I complained about it, so they changed it a bit, but they still have all our stuff, even the ingame screenshots I took. I won't deny it, that is kind of upseting. Is there anything I or anyone else can do? Because I don't speak chinese and I don't realy know what to do.--Malvodion (talk) 06:23, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll bring it up with the legalese people again and see if there is anything we can do about it. --Sigil Baram (talk) 18:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * In case it's of any help/use: their license is "CC BY-SA 3.0". Ours is "CC BY-NC-SA 3.0".--Malvodion (talk) 18:42, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Need help adquiring a new extension
Hello, it's been a while. Smite has gone through many, many important changes over the last few months, including a change to the recommended item builds. The game still used the old format (which is currently used in all god pages) in several parts of the game including the autobuy function, but this will change on the upcoming patch (it's coming out in hours from now.).

The new format separates items in "early, mid, late game and core" items. Making a template for them would be very easy (so don't worry/bother yourself with that.), the problem is that each god has atleast 2 builds (some have 3 or more). We can't have both builds being shown at once for several reasons, so I came up with a fairly simple idea for it: The tabber extension. This extension would allow us to have many different item builds sharing the shame space on the page.

But there is a problem: I have no idea how to actually get the extension into the wiki. Could you help me with this?--Malvodion (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Tabber should be all set for you. It is one of the extensions that is already widely used on Gamepedia, it just isn't enabled by default. If you're ever interested there is a list extensions Gamepedia has here, and if there is ever anything you want that we don't have yet we can look into adding it. --Sigil Baram (talk) 19:32, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, alright. Thanks for the tip, and for the help. Just one question: Where do I have to go to customize tabber (If it can be customized)? I wanted to change the colors to better fit the site. (white with blue letters looks very out of place here)--Malvodion (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * That would be something to put in MediaWiki:Common.css. Are you familiar with CSS? If so I put up some blank CSS at Tabber. If not I could style them for you. --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:01, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh. I don't have much knowledge of CSS (yet). Makes me feel bad to bother you again but: Yes, I'll need you to help me on this.
 * My original plan was to make the tabs look similar to our tables: brown/golden thin borders, regular black background for the innactive tabs, a slightly grey tone (or perhaps the blue we use for the top headers, whatever looks nicer) for the active tab (to make it stand out), and white text.--Malvodion (talk) 21:28, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

How is this style? --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC) Tab 1= Tabber 1 Tab 2= Tabber 2 Tab 3= Tabber 3


 * *Grumble grumble* Hold on --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok there it goes. The server was holding on to the old version of commmon.css for some reason. --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:48, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It looks great, though I found a minor problem with it: The tabber's border doesn't just surround what's inside it, but it also keeps going until it reaches the right side of the screen. This is most noticeable on large resolutions, and this also causes the tabber t to clip under the god infoboxes. It's ok if it can't be changed (without breaking something else/making it look weird when it's used for other things), I don't think anyone will mind it.--Malvodion (talk) 22:14, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll look at ways to fix that. I know how to fix it with simple boxes but these I'll have to experiment a bit to make sure the various pieces stay lined up with each other. --Sigil Baram (talk) 23:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh hey, got distracted and forgot for a bit, but I just fixed this. It was actually easier than I thought it would be and only took a couple lines. If you see this fix acting oddly somewhere let me know and I'll tweak it. I'm not expecting issues though since the one above is acting ok. The only place I can think of that it might act odd is if the tabs are wider than the page, but that would have probably been an issue before as well. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:26, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * That's fine, though they are a kind of compressed, but I belive that once I replace the builds with the full new method it should look right. Thanks for the help.--Malvodion (talk) 23:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

About the logo
It looks pretty nice. Who made it by the way?--Malvodion (talk) 22:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh? I've heard nothing of a Curse/Gamepedia promotion. Mind linking me to it? I tried to look for it but found nothing.--Malvodion (talk) 00:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * See how Smite Wiki is in the list of wikis at the bottom of the sidebar? I'm pretty sure that is what they were referring to. --Sigil Baram (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

About the media player
For some reason, the media player we use for voice clips is half broken (you can play the file, but everything else is glitched). Example: Apollo voicelines. Was there any global changes to it that I'm not aware of? What can be done to fix it?--Malvodion (talk) 13:04, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes actually. There was a bug with a certain video format not working that they fixed, but looks like they might have broken something else in the process. The bug has been reported to them, so hopefully it will be fixed soon. --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

About the videos
Mmm.. I think we could rename the "God Reveal" sections to something else, like media, or something more fancy (I can't think of a good name right now.), there is already a few pages that have videos that aren't reveals (like Guan Yu and Anubis). Now, How they'll be place in that section? I'm not sure. Since putting them all together wouldn't look tha good, maybe we could use tabber to separate them, in a similar way different builds and types of CC are.--Malvodion (talk) 18:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Weird issues with infobox template
Today I tried to change the infobox template and it "broke". Some commands got automatically replaced by some codes, and it won't let me change them back. Do you know what's causing this, and if you could fix it?--Malvodion (talk) 19:06, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Forgot to link the template in question: Template:God_infobox_new.
 * Oh, alright. Atleast it's fixed for now. Thanks for the help.
 * While I'm here, I'll ask: Would it be possible for us to change the favicon of the wiki? I tried to change it but it had no effect, though I expected it not to work right away. Ended up reverting it just in case that somehow had something to do with the template breaking. I was going to change it to the current smite icon, since it isn't used in any other "main" smite website, and would fit better that the "random icon" (I know it's the greek icon from closed beta, but most people probably don't.) we currently have. If we can: do I simply replace the current favicon file, or do I need to do more than that?--Malvodion (talk) 23:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Need help with god page sections' revamp
Sorry to bother you, but I need help with something: I've been working on a few new things to replace the obsolete ability and skins sections (and soon other parts of the god pages). But I ran into a small problem with Template:God_ability: character that have two stances, like Ullr and Hel, stretch the tables way too much. My solution was going to be copying the animate code used in the god infoboxes, which would keep on rotating the icons in the same small section. But it didn't work: For some reason, while the first image appears with a regular size, the second one appears 4 times that size. I pressume this happens because of the way animate was written. Would it be possible to make a new (and a bit slower, since the one used for infoboxes rotates a tad too fast for just two icons) version that would work for it? I tried looking around the net but I couldn't find anything about how the commands work. Also: I pressume the tables I made for both the abilties and skins must be a horrible mess to anyone who knows how to actually make them. Is there anything that could be improved/optimised? Here's some example pages: Apollo/sandbox, Ullr/sandbox. After this is done, I'm most likely adding them to the main pages and moving on to something else.--Malvodion (talk) 09:09, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh also: Do you know how to hide certain borders inside a table? I think the stats section would look better without the visible borders between them.--Malvodion (talk) 09:26, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * We actually have an extension now that does slide shows: gphelp:Extension:SlideBoxLightShow. It would probably be good to switch Smite Wiki over to using that rather than maintaining custom javascript. You can specify the timing and such for each use so it should work for what you were saying. If that is alright with you, then I'll have that extension enabled for Smite Wiki.
 * That layout looks good to me. On the empty row below the heading in the skills would it look better with "background: none"? I'm just guessing that you wanted that row to be empty space... And for the skins I think it might be neat to have something that says if the skin affects the aesthetics of the god's skills. Gold skins have gold effects, Ice Queen has bluer effects on its skills, Elite Agent Apollo has pretty unique animations on its skills, etc. One thing I wish Hi-Rez did was unlock every skin in practice mode so you could preview stuff like that...
 * And I agree that those borders in the stat sections of skills probably aren't needed. To hide borders in a table that has border collapse you can use "border- -style: hidden;". Like so:


 * --Sigil Baram (talk) 19:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, that feature would be very useful. Thanks for the help. About the custom effects for skins: I had added a section bellow the windows that only appears if something is written in it, that details any extra stuff like custom effects, or if the skins is exclusive and limited to certain date.--Malvodion (talk) 20:17, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh cool. Out of curiosity do they re-offer all the holiday skins each year or do you have to get them when they first come out? I'm kind of sad that I missed the Valentines Chang'e... the voice pack for it is hilarious. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:20, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, that one is a seasonal skin. Those will return to the store every year. You can still obtain them from Treasure Chests (they are kind of like slot machines, they give almost any skin in the game, 200 gems per roll.) if you get extremly lucky though.--Malvodion (talk) 20:28, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

About SlideBoxLightShow
Is the feature not working or is it just not on yet?--Malvodion (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * It wasn't enabled yet, sorry. It should be up soon-ish. Special:Version lists the active extensions if you're ever curious. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry to bother you again with this but: Looks like SlideBoxLightShow doesn't work well (or at all) in templates. Would you know a workaround for this, or if i'm doing something wrong, how to solve it? Oh and if you needed it: here's a link to the previous version of the template. --Malvodion (talk) 02:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Extensions that use the html like tag format (thing inside ) don't always work well inside templates, so you often have to use them through the #tag parser function instead. It is basically, so an example of SlideBoxLightShow would look like:

For some odd reason that format works better with #if and other template code that the html like tags. If I understood the issue right mediawiki tries to parse html likes tags before parser functions, so when there are html like tags inside a parser function, like you would often want in a template, they get interpreted as an incomplete tag and left as plain text or otherwise act oddly. --Sigil Baram (talk) 06:56, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Well I changed the template so it is kind of working now but looks like we found a bug when there is more than one on the same page? Or maybe the existing javascript on the site is interfering with it...? Ullr/sandbox... --Sigil Baram (talk) 07:10, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Welp. This could be problematic, specially since I intended to use it to animate some player icons for an upcoming page (Cosmetic_Items/sandbox). Mmm.. I have no idea what could the problem possibly be, nor how the javascript could be messing with it. I'd try to remove the script but I'm afraid it might break the pages.--Malvodion (talk) 07:28, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * It is the extension that has a bug. gphelp:User:Sigilbaram/sandbox has issues as well. I'll report the bug to them and hopefully it can be fixed. --Sigil Baram (talk) 07:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * It sounds like this has a fixed that should included in our updates that are supposed to come out next Wednesday. --Sigil Baram (talk) 18:41, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

About the update
Looks like the last update broke the wiki's theme a bit. I imagine this isn't the only case and that you've probably been ask this from others aswell but: Could you help us fix it up whenever you find the time for it? Oh also a thing that always remained "broken" since the last update was the Special:AbuseLog details and examine pages.

On a different note, slideboxlightshow is working without any issues now.--Malvodion (talk) 18:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah. MediaWiki changed some things with the skin, so all the wikis have some CSS issues here and there. Smite Wiki is partially fixed with the quick stuff, but there are other wikis that are a lot more messed up that I've been focusing on.


 * Yeah I imagined that'd be the case. This wiki isn't as broken anymore so that's enough for now.--Malvodion (talk) 20:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Bots
As the title says, ever since we got that update there has been a good number of bots (or maybe just one with different IPs) bypassing the filters. Could it be that the update broke some/all of them aswell?--Malvodion (talk) 11:34, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Malvodion, I am currently investigating and handling all the spam bot issues on the Gamepedia network :) If you have any question or require any extra support, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Cblair91 (talk) 11:36, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Videos
I noticed the Sylvanus video on Curses' Youtube channel. I pressume those are the ones you wanted me to add? Also I got a small request: Is it possible to make it so that videos can be places one next to the other again? The update made it so that they would always be forced to be on different rows.--Malvodion (talk) 00:33, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey. Sorry, I could have sworn I responded to this message... That video could probably go in the video section on Sylvanus, yeah, but the main thing I was worried about before was that there were some videos added by another curse staff member to the tops of some pages that could have been better placed and I wanted to let you know it was ok to move them to the video section. I'll also ask our dev team why videos no longer stack side by side. Which settings used to stack side by side? Was it just if you didn't put left/right or did left/right aligned videos stack too? I would guess left/right not stacking was intentional since left/right images don't stack, but when it isn't specified I would expect them to behave like images that don't have left/right and to stack side by side, but they don't.


 * Also, if I ever don't get back to you then feel free to bump my talk page or use "email this user" in the tools. I was looking at this message at one point and I thought I responding to it, but, for whatever reason, I didn't. Sorry. >.< --Sigil Baram (talk) 23:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It's alright, I'm used to working on my own at this point. But I still need help with what I had mentioned on the IC Wiki: I wanted to make a slightly modified version of the latest infobox style (infobox-test) but with align left instead of right, for a new version of the item infobox that I'm working on (Template:Item_infobox_v2). Align right fits all infoboxes but this one due to the stats and passive/active descriptions. Also, if you have any better ides for the new infobox, please do share them with me, I want to start updating the item pages as soon as possible, so I can then start working on a new item build template.


 * And about the videos: I'm not sure if I should make an invisible table to make them fit together, or use tabber yet again for all videos.(beyond that one sylvanus video you people made, Hi-Rez has been making some lore and also some "counterplay" videos that I are fitting, or atleast fitting enough for the wiki.)--Malvodion (talk) 23:49, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Which part of that did you want left aligned? The whole infobox or the text in the cells? --Sigil Baram (talk) 01:14, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Just the text in it.--Malvodion (talk) 14:20, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I just want to start with this so I can finally be done with it..--Malvodion (talk) 13:16, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


 * That should be fixed. I added the class infobox-content-left to MediaWiki:Common.css that can be used to make infoboxes with left aligned content (it is a class that you would use in addition to the normal infobox class, it doesn't replace it). --Sigil Baram (talk) 01:06, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

New New Wiki Editor tutorials
I don't know if you have heard but Benjamin Tarsa had contacted me the other day, and he said they would try to see if they could do something to promote the wiki. That is great, but there is one issue: Teaching new users how to work with the wiki. While I've been working on the wiki for around year and half, I'm still terrible at explainings things, so I'm not sure how I could instruct users on how to do things like formating the god pages, or working on the voicelines section without directly speaking to each one of them. Since you have worked on many wikis, could you help me redact/update the guides and help pages on this site?--Malvodion (talk) 18:39, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Rather than adding a bunch help pages to each wiki and having a bunch of duplicates we've added a central help wiki to Gamepedia at help.gamepedia.com, so you can point people over there. We're currently working on simplifying a lot of the help pages there and a lot of them are going to be broken up into basic and advanced pages, like gphelp:Images, which is planned to be moved to gphelp:Advanced Images and gphelp:Basic Images. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:26, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Smite World Championship and new Item lists pages
Hello. I wanted to ask you about/needed to your help with two things:

First: I was just contacted by someone at Curse to make a page for Hi-Rez's tournament (SMITE's World Championship 2015, the one sponsored by Curse) in a similar fashion to the one you made for the Curse of The Gods Tournament, but I'm not really good enough to work with that kind of format so I was hoping that you'd be able to lend a hand with this?

And second: I've been working on updating the item pages for a while (just finished the last "Offensive" item's.), and I was planning on making a new and more efficient system for the items lists, kind of like the one you had made for the playable characters on the Prime World wiki (a sortable table that pulls information from other pages, allowing it to update itself.), with several lists for the different stats and item tiers. But this one would require not just one but 3 different categories: one for the kind of god power (in Smite gods are restricted from buying certain items/can only buy certain items depending on the power they use, magical or physical), tier (items have 3 tiers) and ofcourse the stat (attack speed, defense, etc.). These different tables would be separated with tabs by tier, with the different stats being arranged in a similar way to how they currently are in each tab. Is such a system possible? And if it is: Could you lend me a hand making it a reality?--Malvodion (talk) 22:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I made a small page with how the item page would look like (I'm not really happy with it, but I can't come up with anything better.): List of offensive items/sandbox--Malvodion (talk) 23:09, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Decided to use a different system for the items page. But I still got an issue: The pop-up used in the item build template. How do you modify it so that it takes info from the new items infobox (Template:Item_infobox_v2)? And: How can make it so that Template:Item link also displays the info pop-up? It'd allow users to see the info about each items from the items page without having to actually open their pages.--Malvodion (talk) 19:35, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The tooltips use data from SMW which is set with ::  or  . The first syntax shows up on the page and is formatted based on the property's HasType property (like hasType::String on Property:Name says that the name property should be formatted as a string), while the second one doesn't show up on the page. You can do it either way though lately I've been putting all the SMW together at the end of the infobox template and wrapping them in something like  so that you can have pages that contain an infobox but don't show up in SMW (i.e. a help page that shows an example infobox). --Sigil Baram (talk) 23:19, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Alright, I think I "fixed" it (though it seems to have problems showing healing potion's tooltip for some reason.). I still don't know how to add tooltips to the new items page though.--Malvodion (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)