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Stop hand nuvola This page is for discussion of the Main Page. For discussions about the Wiki in general please post on the community talk.

"Beginner Page"

I think there should be a page that has info on important SMITE statistics, like game mechanics(ex. Protections), gamemodes(maps + features), and other similar important information. -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Alpha985 (talk|contribs) on 02:01, 28 May 2013

Yes please! I need to know more about game mechanics, even the basics like how much is base gold gain. How does last hitting work in terms of gold etc. -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Reenen (talk|contribs) on 01:12, 2 September 2013‎
I saw that you made a Gold page few days ago (Please, don't make pages if you won't actually fill them.). I guess I could expand it. But you'll have to be patient: I'm still working on the gods and items pages, and I was planing to make a Buildings page after that(We got stub pages for towers, phoenixes and the mino, we need a proper page with all that info.). If by then nothing else needs to be done I'll work on it. (But I'll probably end up work on it tomorrow or the day after.)--Malvodion (talk) 05:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Minions Page??

Shouldn't there be a page about minions? There at least somewhat important no? -- The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:74.132.27.23 (talk|contribs) on 18:52, 12 March 2013

Possible wording change

Under the main page, their is a link for "boots" under item lists that I believe should be changed to movement speed items or a similar name. It specifically links to movement speed items, so I believe for clarity it should be changed to something other than simply "boots."


Jungle should be altered to "Stats." This wiki needs an explanation of the various stats and information about them (e. g. cooldown reduction maximum).

Minion information should also be added (spawn times, stats, quantity per Phoenix kill, etc.). Likewise for towers/phoenix/minotaur stats (and regen rate, etc.).

A basic game introduction should be a section. "Game Concept" or a similar title could offer "Keyboard Shortcuts" (with a V menu) and information on how the game functions.

"10 Minute SMITE intro/tutorial" is a bad link.


Requesting another sub-header after jungle, or to replace jungle named "Combat". Under this can be crowd control, jungling etc.

I have made a page on CC.

--Elemunt 20:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the feedback. I will see what we can, do as quickly as possible. ^_^ Tesla 20:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I didn't find a link that said "boots". I checked multiple times. Can you maybe post the url so I can see what you are talking about and work from there please. As for Jungle, it is not listed there any more. In regards to the information on spawn times, stats, quantity per phoenix kill (do you mean like the gold gained there + the effects of taking down a phoenix?), the tower, minotaur stats and regeneration rates...I will need to speak to Hi-Rez to see if I can get that information for us. We don't have a page for "Keyboard Shortcuts" but we do have a "Controls" page. That is now linked on the front page. The VGS keys are there, though I need to go in and redo those a bit more. :) ~ Thanks for letting me know about the "10 Minute Smite intro/tutorial", that has now been changed to the basic Smite Tutorial video that Hi-Rez made. Finally about the change of the sub-header "jungle" or adding a new one, two things have been done:
  • 1) The title of "Jungle" on the front page has been renamed to "Combat", which links to the common moba terms page. This is something that can be changed at a later time. The page that was under it "Buffs" has been made to look like "Jungle Buffs". As per you request, the "Crowd Control" page is also linked under that.
  • 2) The page "Special Pages" has been renamed to "Resource Pages", thus allowing us to link the page for controls, moba terms...etc, under it. ^_^


If you have any more feedback or ideas, please let me know. Thank you! Tesla 21:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


Please add "Game Concepts" for an ~'NPC forces' subpage (minions, towers, etc.) and other calculations (e. g. how much favor is awarded). I also would like to have a correction to the sub-text: "An edit doesn't have to be massive; if you feel you don't want to create whole articles, then just fixing spelling errors and broken links is enough.". The word is THAN.


Actually the original wording of "An edit doesn't have to be massive; if you feel you don't want to create whole articles, then just fixing spelling errors and broken links is enough." is correct. --Elemunt 18:12, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


When you say - please add "Game Concepts" do you mean under a particular section, like resources? Or do you mean add another section. By section I am calling the following, sections: "Greek, Egyptian, Norse, Chinese, Hindu, Roman, Resource Pages, Item Lists, Combat". Please let me know. Thanks! Tesla 17:58, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

A wiki's most useful information is that which is not available in-game (and secondly, that difficult to find). The first things I looked for were caps. (what is max cooldown reduction and how is it calculated), icon meanings (the orange skull icon that appears in effects does not have mouse-over text yet) and experience calculation (how much XP does a player kill reward? do towers yield xp?). Currently the wiki offers a lot of already-available information. If there was a page or category for "Game Concepts" people would take a much greater interest in the site.

It could be additional sub-items of resource pages or its own category. Stats details (e. g. max cooldown reduction) and N. P. C. powers (minions, towers, phoenixes, minotaur - hp & armor per number alive, etc.) should be available on the front page.

"Item Lists" could be improved. The first thing evident when using the Items section was how difficult it was to find things. The icons are oversized (I. M. O.). The spreadsheet available when clicking the category name is better and yet the sorting is missing. Someone should be able to create a page that can sort. A drop-down menu should not be difficult, or see: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner for a simple radio dot filter, http://leaguecraft.com/builder/fiddlesticks/ for a complex checkbox system, or http://www.lolking.net/items/ for a great mouseover system.

Instead of listing main categories, why not offer "by Store Menu (or Tree)" as a category that links a page with the current choices as presented in-game. Other options should be "by Main Stat," "by Recommended per God," and etc.

The wording should be corrected. It is stated, "If you don't want to create whole articles." The phrase following offers an alternative to creating an article. "Than" makes a comparison or offers an alternate. If choices are available, "than" is correct. "Then" refers to a time. If something occurs, "then" is correct. If I try to explain this, then would be a good time to do it. If I try to explain this, than I should have a good example (get it? :). This may be of assistance: http://grammarist.com/usage/than-then/.

Thank you Silekonn for your feedback. I will see what we can do to make changes like you have suggested. Also please remember to use a signature after you type a message on the discussion pages. ^_^ ~ Thanks again for the feedback! Tesla 09:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Loki needs to be added to the home page.

There isn't a link on the homepage.

Fix the "Items" wikilink

For an unknown reason, on the MP, "Items" links to Special:Random. It should link to Category:Items. MP is FPP'ed or I'd have fixed it myself. Salvidrim 06:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I set up the word "Items" to link to random for the time being. I am going to change that between this year-early (first week or two) of next year. So please be patient. Tesla 09:45, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Focus Item List

created a Focus Items List. --Zojima 21:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Added. Tesla 22:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Item/God/Skill Images

I had added images for the items a few weeks ago found from SMITE's press site. Should these images be used or the datamined ones for the item/god pages? --Zojima 00:18, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

The character cards on that site are old, and also contained in the game files, and they don't contain the newer releases (Guan Yu and onwards). And the other files all seem to be JPG (ew). So I'd prefer to keep using the in-game stuff.
RedArremer 02:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm planning to go through all the god/item pages and update the images to the PNG versions. Is there a way to delete the JPG versions that I uploaded once I switch over the images? --Zojima 19:49, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

God/Item Patch History

How do you guys feel about having previous patch history for each god/item. I started adding them in (PurificationBeads Relic S9 Purification Beads for example), but i can undo my changes if they are unneeded or unnecessary. --Zojima 01:24, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I like the idea, I've been thinking of something like that myself, but I think making a "Patch History" section for the items and especially the gods would be better than just putting it there. Speaking of dates, I'd love to add a "release date" section for all of the gods, maybe in the infobox?
RedArremer 10:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Front Page Clean-Up

Since we're nearing the full release of the game (40 gods estimate) I kinda feel the front page needs a well-needed reorganization. So here is what I was thinking: we have the portraits of all the gods in alphabetical order, but make them much larger, and each circle-portrait has a border. These borders would be color-coded to indicate which pantheon the god belongs to (e.g. red for Hindu, yellow for Egyptian, and so on). God names would be underneath each corresponding portrait, and clicking either portrait or name would obviously link you to that god's article. While such an idea isn't much, it's certainly better than the layout we have now. - Dark Auk (talk) 00:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I actually really like the idea. I also love the look of dota2 wiki's frontpage. Since I suck at wiki code, instead of sandboxing, I decided to make image versions for 2 mock drafts. One for DarkAuk's idea (Here: http://smite.gamepedia.com/File:Mockup2.png ) and one for how it would look like with the Dota 2 wiki design (Here: http://smite.gamepedia.com/File:Mockup1.png ). I copied the exact image size of the buttons on the dota 2 wiki for that (I think they're perfectly sized!). Of course, the end product would look fancier, but it's just to give a sort of idea of what both versions would look like. I would happily provide the little buttons for the god pages in the style above. If the Dota 2 wiki style is chosen, we can make the borders uniform color (since they would be sorted by pantheon anyway). Thoughts? - RedArremer (talk) 03:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Thinking about it, I think the categorization of my mockup (#1, the dota 2 wiki style) would be better for several reasons; it's easier to navigate, and most importantly, wouldn't give colorblind users any issues. - RedArremer (talk) 03:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
True. I do think I like the Dota-style one better, perhaps categorize them by role (AD, AP, Bruiser, Tank) since that has more of an impact on gameplay than pantheon, and still have the colored borders for pantheon, but as more for decoration. Or, we could stick with just standard black/uniform outlines, so nobody will be missing out. I'd roll with something like that. - Dark Auk (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Issue is with roles that it'd be difficult to assign them to certain characters (hybrids like Freya come to mind immediately, but also characters that can go either way - for instance support and AP Agni), and Hi-Rez also has mislabeled some of them. So however we'd categorize some characters, it'd end up wrong. - RedArremer (talk) 14:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, let's just go with organization by pantheon, then. - Dark Auk (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Was there ever any consensus about how the main page should be re-organized? ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 17:55, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
I think the current layout is fine. The "problem" is that there is no proper separation between each pantheon, and between the pantheons and the other 3 collumns. After the changes you did, there should be more that enough space for that now.--Malvodion (talk) 18:28, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
(I'm not sure where to post this but) Maybe something like this?--Malvodion (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
We need to clean most of the things in the Resources tab. (I renamed it to Misc because it's shorter and so that it can cover anything that doesn't fit in the other tabs.)--Malvodion (talk) 19:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Pantheons Other
Flag Greek
Greek
Flag Egypt
Egyptian
Flag Norse
Norse
Flag Chinese
Chinese
Flag Hindu
Hindu
Flag Roman
Roman
Flag Mayan
Mayan
Bloodforge 03
Items
Aoeminiondamage
Combat
Oracle Rank03
Misc
I like this new frontpage a lot, but I still think that buttons would be a good idea for the simple fact that their size is going to be static, while words are not, and if we'd get a long ass name for a new character, we'd have to re-work the entire frontpage. My offer of doing buttons for all the pantheons still stands, by the way. -- RedArremer (talk) 20:03, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't notice that buttons mockup before. I think they would work pretty well, but the rest of the frontpage would need to be changed aswell. I just hope no one complains about it looking too similar to Dota's gamepedia.--Malvodion (talk) 20:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Haha, it's okay. And well, Dota's gamepedia is a sister site to this one, right? So there shouldn't be any whining as to why we're using a similar look. ;) -- RedArremer (talk) 00:58, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Fair Enough. If you take my table as reference, you can replace the pantheon section with something similar to your http://smite.gamepedia.com/File:Mockup1.png, but a bit more compressed. It should fit nicely and you won't have to rework the entire page (yet). The only problem would be that we'd have to make a new image for each new god. Or you could make a simple table using the regular god icons in a similar fashion, that way you'll have more space for icons and you'll have less work to do.--Malvodion (talk) 01:12, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

(Reset Indent) If we switch to the above table we'll have to reorganize the sections since that table is fairly wide. Part of why I did the last change was so that the front page would scale down better (It was an unstyled table before). It was meant to be a temp fix since this discussion was going on. I actually thought I had already posted here but evidently I got distracted >.< ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 18:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh a couple other comments/suggestions. Everyone is copying DOTA2 wiki, so it might be nice to see something different done. If we do end up going that way I would say finding a way to have actual text, because pure images layouts are horrible for search engines, screen readers (although someone using a screen reader on a game wiki seems unlikely), etc. I can probably figure out ways around that if that is the way you guys decide to go, though. I'd also say the guides section can be removed for a link or something. It is huge and didn't get the community attention it was originally expected to get. Most gods have 0, while the highest is 2... If people do get into again we can look at putting it back. --19:16, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
And I also wouldn't mind revisiting the skin. I'll probably clean up the CSS file at some point anyway, since it is kind of messy and I've been slowly standardizing the organization of those on my other wikis. So if there is a different color scheme or background or anything that you guys would like, then let me know. I noticed that tables are given black headings a lot for one thing. Is that something that you guys would like to have standardized? Maybe as a separate option from wikitable? Lots of wikis have a "prettytable" for example. ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 19:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
(@ the second comment) If you do end up removing the guides section, then we could increaze the size of the pantheon tables, and include the icon for each god (it wouldn't affect the current loading time since the guides already have an icon for each god).
(@ the third comment) Well, I was going to suggest that we needed to update the skin a bit since smite now has a new logo and color scheme (But I don't think it'd be a good idea to change OUR color scheme. I'm happy with the current one.). A new background would be nice (Nothing personal zeus with grasping hand in the bg, but after so long you do get a bit repetitive.) I've been using black for the headers since it's a good contrast with the blue bg, and to differentiate it from the fancy ones, since things like the "Gods list" bar use it.--Malvodion (talk) 20:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Is "Language" thing not supposed to show up yet? (by the way, if you need someone to translate things in spanish, I could do it. But I want to finish the everything I alreary promised I'd do first.) Also, I need you people to be honest: Do you like the changes I've done to the wiki? What I like think looks good might not look so good for everyone else. I just want to give some "love" to the wiki, but I don't want to shape it to only my liking.--Malvodion (talk) 20:20, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
We could actually use some guidelines since currently there aren't any. Personally I haven't looked at a whole lot of what you are doing since it is usually a long list changes. I just make sure no one is breaking things since I currently have 20 wikis I'm looking after and this wiki has active admins. Glancing at the before and after of Aphrodite I don't know if I would have removed the quote sections, maybe just compacted them into a single section with sub-sections. {{Item build}} should probably be used more often too. The skin on that could be changed if we want the black headings. There is also the template that Zojima1668 made that could be used in a similar fashion as a skill bar. And I just realized how horrible those item popups must look on mobile devices... I'll have to look into that. :\ ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 21:12, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
About the quotes: I was planing to make a subpage for each god containing their quotes, similar to Dota's "XHero responses" subpages. They aren't "lost", I can simply check the history and copypaste them. About the item builds: I had no idea there was a template for that, I simply edited the one all paged had to use a fixed value. I also keept the black bg since it blends with the icons'. About the abilities: I never saw that template either, It look pretty good. I had made the abilities section like that so that 1) I'd be a bit more organized 2)It'd compress the lore box between the God list header, the God profile bar on the side so that it could also look organized in pretty much any resolution.
Yeah I figured you probably just didn't know about those templates. I made the item popup templates months ago, but they never ended up being used anywhere, so it isn't surprising that you didn't see them. The popup feature is nice though, so it'd be cool if they were used places. And the skin on that can be made black if that is what we want. The ability one was pointed out to me but the way it is currently wouldn't fit in the flow of a page very well, but just making it appear as a popup like those item templates it could work well as a "skill bar" type thing. It could also be added to {{Skillbuild}} so that the skill descriptions are show on that template. And I know the quotes aren't lost or whatnot, I just didn't realize you planned to put them elsewhere. ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 23:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I want to use that item template, it's so much better and efficient that the table I've been using, and it's easier to work with too. And yes, I think Zojima's template would look great as a popup. And don't worry, I never mentioned anything about the responses pages beyond RedArremer's talk, once.--Malvodion (talk) 00:33, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't want to be annoying but: I think the items template should be organized by "Consumable, Active items, Passive items", like in the ingame store/smite's website, and that there should only be a single consumble spot.(you should probably also fix the titles) Beyond that, it's perfect.
Well, seems like the template has a "problem" with items that have more that one 3rd upgrade (like boots.). It can be "fixed" by making a new page for each rank 3 item variation though.--Malvodion (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The multiple upgrade paths thing is new, as are the item limits on gods... I went to play a match as Freya and was soooo confused as to why I couldn't buy most my favourited items. And mana and stuff is nicer now than it used to be. I never had to run back just for mana and I didn't have any mana restoring items.... So much faster paced without the random pit stops. ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 01:16, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. In a recent update they made it so that physical gods can't buy magical items and viseversa, since now both abilities and basic attacks escalate with their main stat, plus with the new multiupgrades, most old custom builds were broken.
Well, I just made pages for all the boots, I'll work on the rest of the items when I get to them (I was already working on updating each item page, now I just need to c&p a bit more.). I'd apreciate it if, whenver you have the time, you can work on changing the template a bit. As soon as it's ready I'll start updating the gods' pages. It's a bit late on this half of the world, I continue tomorrow.--Malvodion (talk) 01:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I just noticed the template wasn't protected (I don't know why I thought it was) so I edited it myself, I hope you don't mind. While I was updating the god pages I noticed that some items with long names, like Bracers of Replenishment, strech the boxes a lot. A simple fix would be to give the boxes a limit.--Malvodion (talk) 15:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Its fine if you edit them. Templates usually aren't protected unless they are getting targeted for vandalism or spam. Most the people in the communities I work with seem to either know what they are doing or they know that they don't quite know what they are doing and ask for help, or experiment on their user pages before changing the actual templates. ---- Sigil Baram (talk) 16:45, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I should have used another page to experiment on it, I'm kinda new to all this. (I've never did anything on any wiki beyond minor edits and updating some info. Most of the stuff I know I learned it in the few weeks I've been here. That's one of the reasons why I asked about what you thought of my work.) Also, I like that new logo.--Malvodion (talk) 18:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I was just going to say that the yellow borders would need to be changed since they don't match the logo but looks like you already did it. I think it should be a bit more golden though.--Malvodion (talk) 18:22, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Haha And you beat me to it again. It looks great now. --Malvodion (talk) 18:23, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I completely redid MediaWiki:Hydra.css. Things should still look mostly the same, except in cases where I added something that was previously missing (the search options weren't skinned, for example). It was mostly just an organizational change, and removing redundant code. I might tweak a few things as I look around. If you guys would like to see something changed or find something I broke in the process, then let me know. --Sigil Baram (talk) 21:07, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
All tables got changed to the same color scheme so there might be one somewhere that don't look right, but beyond that, Everything seems to be working correctly.--Malvodion (talk) 21:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Seems like the popups from the itembuild are broken, and I'm not sure how to fix them. I imagine other similar things might be broken aswell.--Malvodion (talk) 23:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Odd. Those are in a MediaWiki:Common.css... Mediawiki compacts the two files together though. I'll poke around for whatever open bracket/comment is breaking them. --Sigil Baram (talk) 23:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

That particular problem should be fixed. I didn't realize that only the child selectors (the >'s) were needed in the wikitable declarations now. It used to be that they left the normal selectors in there for older browsers, but they seem to be excluded now. --Sigil Baram (talk) 23:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Just dropping by to say the page is starting to look pretty good (although the font is a tad small). That said, if you want buttons for anything, just let me know on my talk page. -- RedArremer (talk) 00:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Oh also, I'm much in favor of dropping the guides section as well. It's a lot of work to keep it updated, and the guides ALL are incredibly outdated. -- RedArremer (talk) 01:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
If the guides ever pick up in the community I would go in and make it more automated than it currently is, but currently it is a huge chunk of the main page that is almost completely useless since so much has changed. The tournament section might need to go for the moment too... Only the Curse of the Gods Tournament was ever maintained and that was by a Curse staff member. I'll work out a system for items with multiple rank 3 options too, since those currently don't work with the popups and such. --Sigil Baram (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
I made a mockup for a possible new main page over at User:Sigilbaram/mainpage. It isn't 100%, but it is nice to be able to see what it could look like since we are talking about changing so much of it. --Sigil Baram (talk) 19:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I like it. We should probably add more patchnotes to the list and also add some of the link from the "Resource pages" list to the Community one (like guides), to make them look less empty/match the length of the Items one. Also we should continue talking on the other section, since this one already too long.--Malvodion (talk) 19:50, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

The icon links for Ares and Ahnur need to be fixed. Currently, they link to Aphrodite and Zeus, respectively. --Zojima (talk) 00:46, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. --Sigil Baram (talk) 01:01, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
[VVGO] "Oops!" --Malvodion (talk) 01:17, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
[VVGR] "No Problem!" --Sigil Baram (talk) 03:03, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Front-Page Cleanup Part 2 - Electric Boogaloo

Thought it might be better to make it a new "category" to make editing easier. :P But yes, the guides and tournaments sections are really outdated. I'd suggest just taking them off of the frontpage until somebody who has the time/will to work on these comes along. We could however make a "useful links" collection with stuff that DOES keep that information updated, like Smitefire or the official reddits, and keep ourselves strictly as an information site. We also need to update the god roles, and I think I will do that today after the patch hits. -- RedArremer (talk) 08:35, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree. And about the god roles: I think it'd be good if they were classified in: "Attack Range,Attack Type,First Role,(and if needed)Second Role." just like ingame (Apollo "Ranged, Physical, Carry"oldguanyu"Melee,Magical,Tank,Support",etc.).--Malvodion (talk) 12:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Would you mind if I edit the front a bit? Just things like renaming "Ability" items to "Active".--Malvodion (talk) 22:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah didn't see the part 2. That was getting quite large. On your above comment, yeah we could add more things to any of the sections depending on how long they need to be. We could also use a table for the layout so that those bottom sections are all the same height even if they have an empty line or two at the bottom. One thing to remember before we copy it over is to add the mf-* ids in places or nothing will show up in the mobile version. I didn't bother adding those yet incase we wanted to re-arrange things more. --Sigil Baram (talk) 20:07, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I think the new frontpage should have links to a "Maps/Modes" page (I think we don't have one, I'll make it if I have to.) and there should also be a link to the MotD page. I'm not sure where they could go though.. The "Combat" list?--Malvodion (talk) 08:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I think it'd be a good idea to replace the Combat page with a hybrid between the old resource pages and combat, and keep the most useful links from both collumns. Also I think the God's lists need a few changes, the big empty spaces don't look very good. Should we add tiny icons for the gods, kinda like what the guide section had?--Malvodion (talk) 21:17, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
That makes sense. I missed the resources section when I was copying things over to the new layout. Thanks for fixing that. --Sigil Baram (talk) 01:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I made a new mockup of the button-ed version I've been talking about (clicky: http://smite.gamepedia.com/File:Frontmock.png ). This time I took the time to do it with all characters and fit it into the current layout we have on the front page. The huge upside to using this is that there's going to be no names that take 2 lines (e.g. Wukong), and all columns will have the same size, making it much easier to edit it. Furthermore, this would allow us to sort them anew if Hi-Rez puts in a new pantheon, like this for instance:

Greek Egyptian

Norse Chinese

etc.

RedArremer (talk) 19:54, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

It looks pretty good but, wouldn't it be a pain to keep that updated, making new icons for each release or godcard/icon change?--Malvodion (talk) 20:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
What if we used that format but with god icons like this. No need for new images and will be auto-updated when any of the icons are updated. --Zojima (talk) 22:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
The problem with that is that it takes too much space (and it'll only get bigger) and it doesn't look as organized as the other one.--Malvodion (talk) 22:29, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Obviously this would need to be reformatted. I was only suggesting the concept of using the god icons with RedArremer's mockup. --Zojima (talk) 22:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Well now that I've got the majority of, well, everybody up until now out of the way, it wouldn't be much of a pain, no. -- RedArremer (talk) 06:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Oh cool, I like that you guys squeezed the free rotation in there. Nice use of that empty space. XD --Sigil Baram (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Item List Organization

The item list as presented is not very useful. it needs a massive rework.

  • Stats for individual levels are not shown without having to click through each and every item. The list needs to be organized so all you need to know can be seen on the main page.
  • Multi-route items are not decipherable. If you click on the final item (which is all that is listed), there is no indication of the other branch path.
  • The organization bears no resemblance to the in-game shop.
  • Useful categories not covered in-game are not covered here (for example, having a category for "aura items" would be useful for Ares players) .

-- The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:136.142.206.78 (talk|contribs) on 13:06, 1 July 2013

Current events?!?

What in the hell is going on with the current events page? Whitsoxrule (talk) 23:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

About skin model pictures

Looks like they changed the camera for the god skin preview (the skins bar was covering the bottom half of the models), so I might end up "Reuploading" a lot of them (Just in case anyone wonders what's up with all these image reuploads) (I realy don't want to do it, but some skins, like Zhong kui's, realy need it.). It also looks like they forgot to upload the golden chang'e skin.. so no picture for now.--Malvodion (talk) 13:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

That reminds me: I also took pictures of the legendary skins, just in case.--Malvodion (talk) 14:03, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Free Good Rotation

Since wikis like LoL's have the god rotation, and we had that ugly empty spot, I went ahead and added it. It shouldn't be too hard to maintain since they only change the rotation every two weeks (for now).--Malvodion (talk) 12:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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